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Police Issue Tickets to Mushroom Pickers in San Francisco
« on: March 25, 2006, 10:14:23 AM »
Mushroom harvesting
East Bay Regional Parks District
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They're out there carrying field guides and baskets, lurking in the parks and open land of the East Bay hills and flinching every time they hear a car roll by. They're poaching wild mushrooms from public land, and a crew of armed officers is hunting for them.
The officers and their prey are locked in a thorny battle over the uses of public land and the environmental impacts of mushroom harvesting. The chanterelle pickers call their hobby a right; the officers who bust them call it a crime. Biologists tend to side with the thieves, but they're not making the rules. Meanwhile, rumors fly that the rangers hunt fungi themselves or eat the confiscated mushrooms back at the station, and law-abiding citizens wonder where they can gather wild food without risking a hefty fine. Where's a hungry, modern-day hunter-gatherer to turn for sustenance?
Not the East Bay Hills, apparently.
The East Bay Regional Parks District and East Bay Municipal Utility District each employ a phalanx of rangers whose duties include educating the public and protecting their respective agencies' lands, which together cover an area about one-fifth the size of Rhode Island. The rangers can call in mushroom offenses to the 72 gun-toting Park District officers, who are authorized to issue citations.
"We know all the best spots from busting people," said utility district Ranger Naturalist Joe Scornaienchi. "It's just standard practice, you can't take any plants, animals or anything."
The park cops take their responsibility seriously. "Looking for mushroom hunters is part of the routine patrol," said watch commander Lt. Wayne Morimoto. "We prioritize issues that relate to public safety or theft or vandalism."
Mushroom hunters don't see their hobby like that. "All that land, East Bay MUD, East Bay Regional Parks, even UC Berkeley land, that's our land," said Charlie Hallowell, chef and owner of Oakland's Pizzaiolo restaurant. "That's public land, right? That's what I'm paying taxes for, right? Part of the natural bounty that exists here is these wonderful mushrooms. There's a reason they're so delicious. They want us to eat them!" Chanterelles are a standard topping on Hallowell's gourmet organic pizzas and he is an avid mushroom hunter.
"It's horrible," agrees Mark Lockaby, two-time vice president and president of the Mycological Society of San Francisco, the country's largest collection of mushroom maniacs. "We're the laughing joke of the world. People have always foraged for food. Everywhere in the world people do this, most places in the country too. California is the only place in the country with such strict regulations. Some Scandinavian countries allow you to hunt for mushrooms and berries on all lands, public and private. It's actually a constitutional right."
The Alaska state constitution guarantees subsistence rights on all public land — state residents can catch fish, hunt game, pick berries, and look for wild mushrooms — but there are no such rights here. Although enforcement is executed by just one agency, East Bay Regional Parks District land ranges over twelve different court jurisdictions, and the amount of the fine is at the discretion of individual judges. The most lenient have been known to drop all charges, while the strictest have upheld fines as stiff as $675.
Mike Boom, another former president of the Mycological Society, thinks there's additional danger in these regulations. "If there are laws people think are ridiculous, then they start disrespecting other laws as well," he notes.
In the early 1990s, the Mycological Society staged a rebellion, appealing to state parks officials to allow some mushroom hunting, or to open up other land to the activity. The society achieved a small victory with the decision to allow mushroom hunting up to five pounds per person per day in three California State Parks. Two are in Marin County — Samuel P. Taylor and Tomales Bay State Parks — and the third is Salt Point State Park in Mendocino County. National Forests, where permits are free, are the state's best bets for mushroom gathering. However, desperate urban foragers have been known to turn to city parks, median strips, and other city land where there are no official regulations yet.
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/Issues/20 ... yside.html

East bay Express, Saturday March 23, 2006
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2006, 10:37:34 AM »
So if you're lost in the woods of California, simply pick a mushroom and someone will be there to bust, er, help you right away.

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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2006, 11:36:09 AM »
It would be more like, 'send you away.'

Anyway, that is the result of 1967-1968 Hare Krishna's who, on several ocassions, were caught ripping off flowers form the conservatory in Golden Gate Park to sell to air travelers at the San Francisco airport..  They actually told the judges in court that they only picked broken flo0wers or ones that were dying or fell to the ground.

unfortunately for them, the police had photographs of them stealing hundreds of flowers form the park and form other areas arouond the city.

So they pass an early law in San Francisco and it appaently, over the years, went throughout the a whole state to become a state law.

Of course that is true for most cities in the USA. They want to control everything. While those mushrooms are picked in public places, the government forgets that we are the fucking public.

Remionds me of homeless people in Hawaii.  Patsy Mink, U S representitive wanted oto make it a crime for homeless people to sleep in public places.  And also give them 30 days in jail and a $1000.00 fine for slee-ping in a pyublic place.

SEems Asias in power would deny a citizin form sleeping in a public place.  Is she out of her fuckign mind.  They are the public.

And if they had a $1000.00 dollars I know they would definatley not be sleeping in a pyublic place with that much money.

What a shit this country is slowly becoming

Rule of Law is evil.

Should only be one law. The law of crime.

boomer.. Sorry did not mean to go on a rant.
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2006, 11:58:00 AM »
this topic has been moved to entheogen law, as it is a legal question  :twisted:
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2006, 05:33:24 PM »
Its of interest to mushroom people, so I'd left it in the Forest Floor as it wasn't out of place there.
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2006, 08:14:40 PM »
I think the law category was created to raise attention for situations where entheogens and current governance cross paths, for better and worse. Since it is a new category, it seems to be a good idea to keep an eye out for postings that can go here.

This category is important for this site as there are many activists here who want this site to not only promote intelligent interaction with entheogens, but to fight the encroachment upon individuals' rights in carrying out these interactions. There has never been much of an agreement about how to do this; this forum is the resulting compromise. I'd like to see it have more traffic.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2006, 11:20:36 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2006, 03:27:17 PM »
Adam, if you have an ax to grind, grind it somewhere else. We are all pretty much supporters around here.
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2006, 02:00:16 PM »
Lemme holler from the back of 'da choir loft.....   """Adam"""  What is the reason you would come on an entheo board and spout crap that you know will be contrary to most people on the forum????   Have alot of time to kill lately?/////////----------sal
---  PS....  Mushrooms have been utilized in spiritual/entheo practices for millenia
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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2006, 08:34:49 AM »
To me it would seem that entheogen supporters support a group of losers. I used to be an entheogen suporter once.  I think the entheogenologists should just die like they really want, and stop trying to swallow everything like the ghosts they are, or, at least, go and find their own cocaine.  Besides, it's all bout cocaine, anyways. (seriously) Pikhal? about cocaine...Tikhal?  about cocaine...the winners and the losers.  If you read them in that light, you'll understand.

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I thought about deleting and editing the above, but I've decided to leave it and post a commentary to it.  I'm not sure about the winner and loser scripts.  That would seem to be more Leary-esque.  I'm not sure it's about cocaine and I'm not sure why coca became so taboo among the enthegon scene to begin with...  My initial interest was ethnobotany...basically the study of traditional indigenous use of plants, specifically medicinal plants.  I think coca is included in that, but is not the end all be all, although, it may seem so at the time;)  I don't think synthetic drugs have a place in the ethnobotanical community, though, and specifically in the entheogen community.  I think use of lysergic acid diethylamide, methylenedioxymethamphetamine, d(l)-methamphetamine, and the like have no place in the ethnobotanical and entheogen forums. As for myself, I have broken most ties within the etnno community having seen it fragment into severeal camps.  I guess, now, I'm mostly an observer.  I think coca is a neglected plant and it's all about the Ka, not so much the "co".  Timothy Plowman did alot of fieldwork on the coca plant, and while he did die of AIDS, several years ago, I still find his work fascinating.  One day, I wouldn't mind doing fieldwork in South America on this plant.  

As for the "crack" about the swallowing everything, it just seemed like the entheo community has been trying to save a heroin(opiate?) addicted mother, who just continiually sucks resources and energy without giving anything back.  I mean, it has really sucked, lately.  Am I right?  I'd just prefer to move in a different direction, leaving Ms. entheo behind.  And, you are not losers, just a little unaware...sometimes...is that fair?  No?  I understand, only my observation and opinion.  I'm unaware, sometimes, myself.  I'm working on it.  As for neurochemical engineering, I just don't see it lasting, silicon snake oil, if you ask me.  As for Banisteriopsis Caapi...  I don't think it's where it's at.  It's a vine of the dead of the sun...I don't think it's all powerful, or the end all be all.  Maybe, it offers a piece of a shattered crystal vision, not quite holographic in nature, maybe it's something else.  I think n,n-DMT is a mystery, and will always remain that way...for that, I am thankful, much respect to n,n-DMT.  I no loonger use cannabis...it lost it's luster for me years ago and  I never use methamphetamines.  so, I don't know...oh, and I never smoke tobacco...

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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2006, 08:59:55 AM »
About cocaine not being preferred, maybe.

Is it time to ban this joker named adam?
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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2006, 02:34:19 PM »
Thank you Adam for pontificating from on high...  It's not often than we mere miscreants have the oppurtunity to be blessed by one so vastly illuminated....  How may we ever repay you....???   Can I please, please come and hang out with you...   sal
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2006, 05:38:47 PM »
By the way, I'm with the DEA...www.dea.gov if you want to come hang out.
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2006, 08:30:32 PM »
What Winder said!
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2006, 08:38:55 PM »
Nice to know that the DEA is well stocked with "minds" like this......
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by JRL »
a group of us, on peyote, had little to share with a group on marijuana

the marijuana smokers were discussing questions of the utmost profundity and we were sticking our fingers in our navels & giggling
                  Jack Green