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Offline cenacle

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Chat Needs a Radio Bot
« on: January 11, 2009, 06:13:04 PM »
Hey, all,

The chat would benefit from having a bot that at half-hour intervals or so announces what is on the radio. Is this a hard task to accomplish? It would give chatters a quick idea of what's playing and support the radio too.

It could say:

Now on SpiritPlants Radio:
[Show/Song Track Here]
Tune in! http://yage.net:9000/listen.pls
Web: http://spfradio.yage.net

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Re: Chat Needs a Radio Bot
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2009, 05:24:35 AM »
Bring back Pot the bot!!!

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Re: Chat Needs a Radio Bot
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2009, 11:18:34 AM »
Syd, you complained each and everytime you came to chat last year when I did have a bot there.... just that there was any bot, you didn't seem to like.

And as for pot bot, good luck. I search everywhere and couldn't find him... even asked Nitro who never answered the question.... You find him and I'll put him up.

I have put up a quick, although dirty solution (yes, I know you guys have already complained about the name; what don't you complain about?  :e_wink: ) but it's just that.... not a permanent solution.  

Cenny, you mentioned a radio for the forum main page but I am not going to do that without serious consideration and lots of input from the members of the forum. It is a major change and will certainly draw a response... hell, I took a lot of heat for changing the forum color... and style and I still do sometimes.

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Re: Chat Needs a Radio Bot
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2009, 03:22:57 PM »
Kemp--thanks so much for the chat radio bot!!! I am so stoked that we have one more piece in the puzzle in place :)

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Re: Chat Needs a Radio Bot
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2009, 08:07:02 PM »
Quote from: "cenacle"
Kemp--thanks so much for the chat radio bot!!! I am so stoked that we have one more piece in the puzzle in place :)
Great, now I get to read the topic in chat which has radio links and a bot who spams the room every now and then with radio links.

Kemp, I'm sure its tough being king, you do it so well!!!

Well on a rudimentary Google, I've discovered teh Pot Bot. All we need is someone who knows Perl.

I'm good with just renaming your bot 'Pot'.

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Re: Chat Needs a Radio Bot
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2009, 10:53:33 AM »
Though I don't know Perl very well, I was able to fire up that "potbot" but it doesn't appear to be the same one we used to enjoy. So, I am still looking.

Cass did mention that she would ask Nitro since she is still in contact with him.  :bgrin:

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Re: Chat Needs a Radio Bot
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2009, 12:30:30 PM »
hey sid - my thought is, once the radio bot is working regularly, we don't need the radio link in the room topic on a regular basis anymore - just as long as it's in one place or the other - i personally would prefer the bot announcement since it comes on a regular basis and is an update of what is on at that moment - so that's why kemp's work is so exciting to me :)

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Re: Chat Needs a Radio Bot
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2009, 09:32:38 PM »
It is much better IMO to actually see whats playing, so I can decide if I wanna listen or not. Nicely done Kemp...

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Re: Chat Needs a Radio Bot
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2009, 10:05:59 AM »
Ok, one or two people asked that I change the announce so that it was less disruptive... which I did shorten the announce string, to see how well it would work.
After thinking about it, I think it's better to decide that here. In fact, anything that needs to happen (or if we need a rule setup) in chat should really be discussed here at the forums so that people who are not in chat at the time, still get a say.

Here is what Cenny proposed for the announce -
Now playing on SpiritPlants Radio: %currenttrack% | Listen Live: http://yage.net:9000/listen.pls | Web: http://spfradio.yage.net | Turn on . . . Tune in!

Here is an alternative that was proposed -
http://spfradio.yage.net | Now Playing: %currenttrack%

Make your case here in this thread. If we need to, I can create a poll so we can vote.

Thanks!   :tea:

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Re: Chat Needs a Radio Bot
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2009, 01:10:34 PM »
My version includes a direct listen link, and a link to the radio page, which includes all the radio information, including schedule. I'd strongly ask that this be the version of the two texts above that is used, to maximize this bot's effectiveness. We are working very hard to get more listeners and DJs for the radio, which will also generate traffic for the chat, and for these forums.

Thanks for considering my views :)

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Re: Chat Needs a Radio Bot
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2009, 07:53:50 PM »
Hello,

Well, I'm in support of the shortened version.  Everyone in the channel knows about the radio station.  The only additional information we need is an accessible link from the channel to the radio's web page, which has all the information including a direct link to listen.  More importantly though, the function of a recurring script is to update with new information.  That being: the current track being played.  The rest of the last script was mostly billboard advertising, that has its place, but not inside the channel.  There's just way too much spam with how it is right now, primarily due to the bot displaying two lines of mostly unneeded text on most IRC clients...  The text should ideally be well under one line in length.   This basically limits it to a link and the current song.  I think the bot in this case should be used as a resource, used and shared under for a communal purpose.  I don't think advertising is a good way to look at it within our small room.

I'll go ahead and break it down here:

original lengthy display:

Now playing on SpiritPlants Radio: %currenttrack% | Listen Live: http://yage.net:9000/listen.pls | Web: http://spfradio.yage.net | Turn on . . . Tune in!

1 )  Now playing on SpiritPlants Radio  <---  obvious, everyone already knows what it is.
      - not needed

2 )  %currenttrack%                        <--- informative, signals a taste of what's on the radio to inspire interest if present, without putting forth effort into reading the shoutcast page.
      - needed *

3 )  Listen Live: <--- obvious
      - not needed

4 )  http://yage.net:9000/listen.pls <--- listed on website link already, redundant
      - not needed

5 ) Web: <--- obvious
      - not needed

6 ) http://spfradio.yage.net <--- radio's website and resource for all the radio's information, including link to listen
      - needed *

7 ) Turn on . . . Tune in! <--- advertising, takes up precious channel realestate
      - not needed

Ok, this leaves us with 2 ) and 6 ):
%currenttrack%
http://spfradio.yage.net

The website address has the added benefit of relaying what it is: spf radio, so we have that covered.

thus:
Now Playing: %currenttrack% | http://spfradio.yage.net
or
http://spfradio.yage.net | Now Playing: %currenttrack%

I prefer the second.


Now, Isn't that better?  clean, to the point, and more on the level of the room.

Outside of the room... all the marketing and signs and commercials and buttons you can come up with to bring more listeners.  

My two cents,

Danny (liquis)

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Re: Chat Needs a Radio Bot
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2009, 08:09:48 PM »
I wanted to add that we could add who's show it is as well. That would be something people are interested in.  However I think that's already included in "current track"

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Re: Chat Needs a Radio Bot
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2009, 12:07:17 AM »
Quote from: "cenacle"
Hi liquis, all:

The radio station means a lot to me and I spend a lot of time working on it. It's coming together after years of dormancy, save my weekly show, and in six months since last fall it has come to life. Therefore I am pleased to see ideas flowing and have comments on liquis's right now:

Quote from: "liquis"
Hello,

original lengthy display:

Now playing on SpiritPlants Radio: %currenttrack% | Listen Live: http://yage.net:9000/listen.pls | Web: http://spfradio.yage.net | Turn on . . . Tune in!

1 )  Now playing on SpiritPlants Radio  <---  obvious, everyone already knows what it is.
      - not needed

***Cenacle: We are trying to get new chatters to the room who might not know about the radio station. So it's not obvious to everyone. Could be shortened to: "SpiritPlants Radio"***

2 )  %currenttrack%                        <--- informative, signals a taste of what's on the radio to inspire interest if present, without putting forth effort into reading the shoutcast page.
      - needed *

***Cenacle: Agreed***

3 )  Listen Live: <--- obvious
      - not needed

***Cenacle: This could be cut down to "Listen:"***

4 )  http://yage.net:9000/listen.pls <--- listed on website link already, redundant
      - not needed

***Cenacle: my thought on this is that a person should have a choice of listening or just looking at the web page. ***

5 ) Web: <--- obvious
      - not needed

***Cenacle: I think if one link has listen, the other should have web.***

6 ) http://spfradio.yage.net <--- radio's website and resource for all the radio's information, including link to listen
      - needed *

***Cenacle: agreed***

7 ) Turn on . . . Tune in! <--- advertising, takes up precious channel realestate
      - not needed

***Cenacle: I don't know how a station that is part of SpiritPlants is somehow advertising or spamming it. It's like me selling myself an apple. That is the station's slogan, it's on all the DJ shows. It's meant to give an insight as to what it is. However, I find this point negotiable.***


SO: here is the original:
1-Now playing on SpiritPlants Radio: %currenttrack% | Listen Live: http://yage.net:9000/listen.pls | Web: http://spfradio.yage.net | Turn on . . . Tune in!

Here are liquis's two ideas:
2-Now Playing: %currenttrack% | http://spfradio.yage.net
or
3-http://spfradio.yage.net | Now Playing: %currenttrack%

***Cenacle's:
4-SpiritPlants Radio: [current track] | Listen: http://yage.net:9000/listen.pls | Web: http://spfradio.yage.net

Cenacle: Giving up the slogan, and cutting down on the text, while making sure newbies know 1) we have a radio station 2) it has a live link right there in chat and 3) it had a website too.

Kemp, put the original and liquis's two in the poll and the one I just suggested. I guess we can see if anyone else comes up with one.***

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Re: Chat Needs a Radio Bot
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2009, 12:40:13 AM »
I also would like to point out the bot says random stuff and it posts long google/wikipedia entries, longer than the radio announcement. So i'm not sure where the radio info is over-long and all this other stuff goes uncommented on.

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Re: Chat Needs a Radio Bot
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2009, 01:11:18 AM »
Hi chatters ( and would-be chatters). As a chat fiend from way back I must say that I find this a bit of a non-issue. The wonderful thing about chat is that one doesn't need to read it at all. I *do* like 'short and sweet' but then I also like the idea of using the bot to its potential and I think we should let Cenny choose what it says simply in recognition of his work on this project.
I'm sure one can 'bite one's tongue' if it sends one line too many for one's comfort rather than hassling Cen about it; its going to flash your tab regardless of how many words it says.
I have asked Nitro for potbot ('the best pot bot') but he rarely replies so I will just hassle him more. LOL
all-love and longtime sunshine