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 Post subject: More Wonderful American Justice!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:55 am 
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Are Forced Injections the New Taser?
By: Gerri L. Elder

While most people are aware of police use of Taser weapons, many may be fairly shocked to learn of an alternate method used by police in Nashville, Tennessee to subdue "unruly" people. The city has a policy allowing police to inject unruly people that they encounter on the street with a strong sedative.

One of the doctors responsible for this bright idea claims that it is the safest option available and that it is being used all over the country. However, a top medical ethicist says that it is troubling.

The drug used by police is Midazolam, which is better known as Versed. This drug is commonly used with patients undergoing a colonoscopy. It has an amnesia side effect, according to biomedical ethics and law enforcement expert Dr. Steven Miles.

While the use of the drug is safe for patients who have been screened and had their medical histories reviewed, its use on the street is a bit alarming.

One of the first people to receive a shot of Versed courtesy of the Nashville Police, Dameon Beasley, admits that he was off his medication and out of control at the time. He was shot with a police Taser gun and then officers called for emergency medical personnel to give him the injection. Police held him down while he was given the shot. He described the effect of the injection as immediate and like a "horse tranquilizer," according to a WSMV News report.

When he woke up, Beasley had no idea what had happened to him or how much time had passed. He says that as he came to he saw a sergeant standing over him telling him to sign a paper. He says that he signed the paper without knowing what he was signing. As a result, Beasley ended up in psychiatric care at the hospital. His lawyer says that he had no idea that he had been injected with Versed until he was told that it happened.

Beasley probably was not aware of the 2-year-old policy allowing the police to have people injected with the drug to immobilize them and give them amnesia. Few people are aware of the policy until they are injected, and given the amnesia effect of the drug, many are not even aware then. The Nashville Rescue Mission, Nashville's mental health judge and the American Civil Liberties Union all said that they are not aware of the use of drug injections by police in Nashville.

Dr. Corey Slovis, Nashville's emergency medical director, says that the Versed policy is no secret and that he has no idea why so many people do not know about it. Slovis and medical examiner Dr. Bruce Levy customized the forced injection drug policy for Nashville that has been endorsed by a group of medical experts called the Eagles.

Slovis says that the use of forced Versed injections is very common and when he surveyed major metropolitan areas around the country, he found only two cities that were not actively using the drug.

The standard for the use of a forced injection seems to be extremely similar to the excuses given for Taser use. The police call emergency medical technicians when a person is agitated and the paramedic is to determine if the person is in a state of "excited delirium." Excited delirium is not a recognized medical condition, nor is it a medical emergency requiring sedation.


http://www.totalcriminaldefense.com/criminal-defense-article-taser-forced-versed-injections.asp

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Can someone say Owellian Nightmare??? It's stuff like this that should be on the front page of every paper in the county.... God where is the 'informed public outcry'???? Makes me sometimes wonder if the types that bury weapons in the backyard 'for when the revolution comes' might make some sense after all.......

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Makes me sometimes wonder if the types that bury weapons in the backyard 'for when the revolution comes' might make some sense after all.......


I stopped wondering long ago... and starting diggin' :evil:

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:lol: ==== Ha, that's a great one Teot.... Well, uh, since I was trained by our dear uncle Sam in how to make explosives, I've never leaned toward the 'stuff it under the ground' angle... Too hydroscopic for senors needs 8) ---------- Hey lookee there, it's a black helicopter

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And it gives them amnesia so they can't recall the facts of what happened before they were arrested. How convenient. And it makes them malleable so that they sign whatever is put in front of them. Convenient indeed.

The media doesn't care about stuff like that. The corporate bosses run things now.

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I don't wanna do it... but I think we gotta...

We can't be FUCKED with anymore!

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It's not that I am looking forward to some sort of armed insurrection or what have you happen, but I do think that this country is teetering fairly close to such a thing.... Ha, I've got this little fantasy scenario in my head where some newly elected governor decides to call out the National Guard to protect a medical Marijuana dispensary against a raid by the feds.... Sort of like when old Southern Guvs used to stand at the college doors, and hassle the feds about segregation issues.... I can just see some govenor trotting out the guard and offering armed resistance towards federal intervention on what would be a 'states-rights-medical issue'.... Will it ever occur??? Who knows... Sure makes for a nice fantasy psychdrama to muse on though..........

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Yeah, and the fact that that drug just happens to produce amnesia.... Well now, doesn't that just seem oddly favorable for those administering such goodies :roll: ... The obvious implications are just so, so evil :twisted:

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I can just see some govenor trotting out the guard and offering armed resistance towards federal intervention on what would be a 'states-rights-medical issue'.... Will it ever occur???


If the FEDs are stupid enough to continue the prohibition of cannabis than I certainly hope so.

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