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Teotzlcoatl
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Post subject: Re: E Novogranatense Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:51 pm |
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Well it's still alive, the bottom part (a stem with no leafs, but has roots) is planted but doing nothing.
The top part (with leafs but no roots) has been in water for maybe 10-15 days now. It was doing nothing, so I dipped it in rooting compound and planted it in some good soil. I hope it lives!!!
Any tips???
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Stonehenge
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Post subject: Re: E Novogranatense Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:01 am |
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I would have kept it in the water but if it's in soil now, keep a clear dome over it to raise humidity. The bottom part may end up doing something. I never saw one break in two like you describe. The stems are flexible. It would almost have to be cut to be in two like that. Maybe a squirrel or something got to it?
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Teotzlcoatl
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Post subject: Re: E Novogranatense Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:58 am |
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Dude I have no clue how it could have happened! It was snapped right off!!!
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neonfyr
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Post subject: Re: E Novogranatense Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:30 am |
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Stonehenge
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Post subject: Re: E Novogranatense Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:35 pm |
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Yes, hopefully Teo's plant will recover. I still have some seedlings and a few berries if anyone is looking for them. It's getting near time when it will be too cold to send to northern states.
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Teotzlcoatl
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Post subject: Re: E Novogranatense Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:52 am |
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I'd love seeds if I can plant them next Spring.
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dogbane26
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Post subject: Re: E Novogranatense Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:56 am |
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Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:47 am Posts: 118 Location: North Florida
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Teo I am not sure but it seems to me that this species and its subspecies arn't usually grown from cuttings.
Im not sure if its impossible but it is alot easier to propagate from seeds.
E. coca var. ipadu ive heard is a subspecies of E. coca that is grown from cuttings. It seems to me it was developed in Ipadu, Peru.
As far as I know it can only be grown from cuttings so its probably easy to grow from cuttings im assuming?
It seems to me that it is usually true that plants that have been grown by people for a long time by means of cuttings/ division or other a sexual reproduction have become dependant on vegetative propagation and then don't produce seeds. Kava kava, Taro..etc are some examples. My saying is if you know how the plant normally reproduces you will have alot of success.
I heard onetime heard about some guy that was thinking of trying to make kava cuttings. To me that sounded difficult and probably impossible. If it was up to me i would just divide the plant from the roots. What i say is to be sucessful at plant propagation: look and see what happens in nature.
If a plant like say in Ohio fully develops its seed in the late summer/ early fall and then germinates in the spring: it probably requires a warm, cold, warm cycle.
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Himdumb
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Post subject: Re: E Novogranatense Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:05 pm |
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Stonehenge
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Post subject: Re: E Novogranatense Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:13 am |
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Himdumb, PM sent.
Dogbane, you are correct, cuttings are hard to root. It's better to start with seeds or seedlings already established.
Teo, the seeds/berries don't keep very long, just a few weeks. Check back when you are ready.
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Teotzlcoatl
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Post subject: Re: E Novogranatense Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:30 am |
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Good luck Himdumb! I'll check back in March - April. 
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Stonehenge
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Post subject: Re: E Novogranatense Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:36 pm |
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Berries are back in stock. I'm open for various trades. I'd like miracle fruit seedlings, might be interested in nigella sativa seedlings, t ibog@, mulungu seedlings and a few other things or what have you got.
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dogbane26
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Post subject: Re: E Novogranatense Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:53 am |
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How long do the plants take from seed before you get the berries?
I don't need any seeds of that plant, but do you ever have fresh Voacanga africana seeds?
Let me know what else you have to trade other than E. novo seeds.
How do they do in your climate? Do you usually cover them or bring them indoors when it gets to 40 F?
I have american ginseng plants but I think it may be too hot for your climate. They need a definate dormancy period.
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Stonehenge
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Post subject: Re: E Novogranatense Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:43 pm |
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They can produce berries in a year from seed but the plant won't be that big yet. Anyone else out there growing it? It's a nice looking plant, i could see people growing it indoors just as a pretty houseplant.
I have a couple voacangas and they flowered last year but did not set any seed. They don't like the cold at all. I may try some air layering later. I take my novos in when it gets cold. I have b caapi seedlings, a few goji berry plants, and lots of different cactus seed.
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Zaka
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Post subject: Re: E Novogranatense Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:38 pm |
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Irie, This is my lonely little girl....4 wks old....Thanks to Dog.. Attachment:
DSCI0329.JPG [ 62.07 KiB | Viewed 109 times ]
Trying to keep her on the drier side. Respect Z
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dogbane26
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Post subject: Re: E Novogranatense Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:05 pm |
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Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:47 am Posts: 118 Location: North Florida
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It looks good. I have 5 plants right now. Im thinking of fertilizing every 4 waterings. I will water when it needs it 3 times and then the 4th time im going to fertilize with bat guano which is good organic nitrogen fertilizer.
I might also buy this one product that has alot of the micronutrients like iron and magnesium since ive heard iron deficiencies tend to be a problem.
My plants are all indoors and near a south facing window next to my two Tabernaemontana orientalis and I have 7 Psychotria ipecacuanha plants.
Does anyone think I should grow them using grow lights in the winter time when light duration and intensity tends to be low where i live?
The Tabernaemontana orientalis did fine last winter but were seedlings then so im not sure but they also might need more light.
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