i found this in my old e-mails, thought i'd post it for nostalgick porpoises...

7/9/01

Those posh cunts at Erowid won't publish my Dragibus report - you'd better have it:

I am fortunate enough to have in my possession 6 of these remarkable plants, 2 of the willow-clone variety & 4 of the leadman strain...
Obviously I cannot go into any detail about where you may procure your cuttings from - as there is a reasonable amount of fuss about this wonderful plant at present...

I have opted to give it the nickname 'Dragibus' (the few of us currently propogating & investigating this plant have agreed to give away no details as to its true identity - in this way we hope to keep any unwanted government intrusions to a minimum... Look at the problems facing poor old Sally at the mo')...

I birthed the nickname 'Dragibus' after my first incredible trip, of an intensity that not even a creative psychotic on a DMT/Salvia combo could imagine...

I hope that my report (which I believe is the first to be published outside of a disscussion group) will give people some idea of the amazing scope for personal & social reform that this plant engenders.

My method of ingestion was simple, avoiding the small spikes protecting her delicate stalk - I plucked 11 leaves straight from the plant and laid them out before me...

I ate the leaves straight down, this was my 6th experiment and by now I am completely in love with her extraordinary taste (when consumed fresh)... somewhere between... nope, its utterly undescribable - non-defineable even through reference & comparison... something else entirely (just like her effects)...

So, I now enjoy her taste (while some find it unbearable) and I have no problem chewing one leaf after another, until all are consumed.

30mins later I notice the first alerts, brief flashes of white noise accompanied by a quick 'shudder' of the visual field...
These flashes increase in frequency until they are occuring on each of my heart beats (which are like thunderbolts to my ears)...
This off/on flux builds some sort of a resonance which begins to linger between the beats... This resonance slowly builds in volume & frequency until it seems to actually affect the vibatory pattern of my immediate surroundings...

Things begin to shudder & shake, seeming to gradually dissolve into each other - leaving a nothing that is at the center of everything that was... Just this big black nothing which is all that exists... all that is...

This all happens reasonably quickly (10mins in general)...
In my first experiments I seemed to bypass this stage completely, only with practise have I begun to keep some semblance of awareness whilst there, however I can't do anything with it beyond observe.
Then come the revelations, the visions...

I personally often find a huge snake-like dragon emerges from the void (hence my choice of code-word) and takes me on a journey, actually guides me! through all sorts of fantastic otherworld landscapes... The meaning of these journeys for me (and me only - you should hear what happens to some of the others) is some sort of multi-perspective education...

Any 'otherworld' I visit seems to be a twisted variation on my interpretation of 'this (real) world'... always educating me by taking me outside myself and showing me, not necessarily who I am, but how I percieve the world - how I apply my personality to my surroundings... how what I think is what I am, what I do...

The best thing is - the dragon is getting easier to control, where he takes me (and what we do there) actually (normally within a week) effects itself in my normal consciousness or my surroundings...

I have had complete strangers walk up to me and repeat the words of strange alien creatures whom I have conversed with in the Dragibus realm!!!

I have seen weeds in my garden die after assaulting them by blowing fire from my dragon over them (this was an OEV that happened in my garden - two days later, the weeds were dead)...!!!

The visions normally last 45mins to 1hr before fading into a very mellow body buzz lasting perhaps 2-3hrs...

This body buzz stage is also fantastic, I often keep fairly active with yoga & stretching - I find this aids my memory of the experience (?!) as well as my integration of any lessons learnt...

Btw, I can often visualise the dragon leading the energy flow round my body for a few days after the experience... most inspiring!

I have given you a very basic idea of the essence of my experience with this plant, if you want to find out more you should check for disscussion groups - maybe ask around some forums...

I will not give you any information directly (other than code-worded descriptions of its phenemology) untill we have established a firm code of practise & fully investigated the bizzare effects of this plant...

I apologise if this frustrates you, please know that your time will come if that is the way it should be - I whole-heartedly believe you will find us if you need to... I leave you the word 'Dragibus' as a start point...

If not, be patient, when we are ready - when SHE is ready...
We shall unleash the Spirit.

******

just in case it happens again, Dragibus is just a joke, it's not real...

honestly.

(sorry, can't help micelf)

You've been gone awhile. But we've ALL determined it best not mention dragibus or any of its active constituents by name. Please consider deleting your post. I know all the stuff about censorship and I was one of the worst offenders posting photos of curiosaine crystals, trip reports, extraction teks etc.. But I think its for the best.

I wasn't intending to kick anything off, just posting it so those who remembered could laugh... if your serious about me deleting it and i'm not just getting you wrong, then i'll do so next time i check in, don't wanna go causing a hoo hah hoop lah-di-dah...damn.

is this material still secret to a small number of persons? i've heard references to it before and assumed it was a nickname for something well-known, not hidden...i must admit i am intrigued...

why no references to it on the forums? i don't remember a discussion of it being had...

please give some details of the discussion about the material, if not the material itself...

We at the dragibus liberation front, say there's no hiding the truth any longer! I shall tell all the source for the devine dragibine, just as soon as I'm down from it's horrible grip........sometime tomorrow. Stay tuned! We at the DLF will not be silenced! Strange senses of Orwellian pride to our comrade at farms, Psilly for speaking his magical mind.

(cough) Uhm under threat of expulsion from the DLF, I've been informed by it's unoficial oversight comitee that all affects of dragibus are placebo therebye from here forth the revolution will not be forumized. All ingredients shall be re-de-re classified.

All future inquiry's shall be forwared to www.dea.gov

Thank you all for participating. Leave a message after the beep and speak clearly into the microphone.

hey cen, well, now we've established the thread may go on, and that americans can do sarcasm (hehe, sorry)... I'll try an answer a few of your questions:

the material is still secret to a number of small persons, yes.

the discussion around the material tends to consist of gutteral growls, high pitched spastic beeps and throwing crap at each other.

hope i've been of sum assistance.

LONG LIVE THE DLF.

I can't believe it's all just a stupid joke!

You guys really had me going!

You say " that isn't for you to decide, plants are for everybody" then, those that are aware of the Drag situation are declared to be "greedy fucks".... Lemme put it this way.... Do you not know of countless instances throughout entheo history where the witch doktors / shamans / etc have closely guarded their hard won knowledge, and desseminated same knowledge as their customs and the spirit led them???? You don't see some shamans down on the banks of the Orinoco river just brewing up big pots of Aya juice and calling all the people from throughout the neighboring forest area to participate in a big blowout.... The practitioners of various entho rituals have a history of applied discernment in letting loose the 'secrets'... They strive to give knowledge to those they truly feel are ready for and will truly benefit from such spiritual awakening.... Nobody here in the modern society is suggesting we all just leave some coke,heroin,LSD,Aya etc laying around on a coffee table for whomsoever might decide, on a lark, to indulge in... There's always a trace of the 'holding back' in the ethno-world..... Might I suggest you temper you obvious enthusiasm with a dose of mindful and probative restraint???.... The entheo path is one of earned knowledge, and soulfull seeking, not of demanded enlightenment ---- BTW, it should not take anyone much insight to glean the truth that nobody appreciates being called horrendous names, nor have their characters besmirched 'ala, greedy fucks, assholes and the like"..... Please remember that diligent concerted research and mindful effort will be needed on the path to enlightenment

To quote Dr. Leary: "Dragibus causes rage and insanity in those that know not what it is"

I can't believe it's all just a stupid joke!

You guys really had me going!

Easy on the profanities, boy.

I can't believe it's all just a stupid joke!

You guys really had me going!

Are you threatening us?

I can't believe it's all just a stupid joke!

You guys really had me going!