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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:08 pm 
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Is it ego / noticing is better than not......... Great concise line there sistah!!! 8) ------------

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judih: It seems you only read the first line of my last post concerning suffering. Or maybe not. hehe

As far as ego is concerned, it appears there are as many definitions as definers.

further....

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yeah, lw. i read it all, just free associating. you know how it is!
one thing's for sure - getting in the habit of meditating every morning would be the best addiction i could pick up these days.

for me, getting centred in the morning - including physical warm-ups, mental warm-ups and aligning the chakras - is the best way to experience a day.

now i have a question.
what to do with someone who 'suffers' consistently? How to be with someone who attracts x-treme situations and then has to disentangle themselves?

How to watch that person live their chosen path? Do i interfere? Can i interfere? i suspect i can't do a thing. What do you think?

Do you believe that everyone has their life lessons to learn?


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I have known many like that. They seem to be addicited to stress. Most of the time have found that while they want your energy and attention, they don't want to change.

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Good question, sistah. What to do?

I usually tell that person what (I feel) they need to hear rather than what they want to hear. While the person prolly won't change their destructive behavioral patterns because of another's advice, they might stop bringing their pity to that party. And beyond that, there isn't much one can do beyond modeling better behavior, imo.

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yeah, jrl -
it's a kind of adrenalin IV for some. i think in the case of someone i'm thinking of it's a distraction mechanism - to avoid the real business of simply being.

lw - saying what i feel needs to be said -yeah, that's about it. If the 'listener' protests too much, i know i've hit a chord. Chord hitting is probably the most i can hope for.

Sometimes an honest comment made from the 'soul' , as opposed to personal ego agenda, can make an impression and one day re-birth in a more accomodating time.

ripple, ripple effect.


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judih: On top of the day to day grind, I'm guessing the psychology of living in a virtual war zone can get tricky at times.

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it's tricky, lw, but like most of living daily life, one gets 'used to' it. Not impervious, but used to accepting reality as it happens. We all have our bizarre situations, our strange circumstances, in any number of guises.

but that's an aside.

the path? the path is a series of present moments. Being in the present as much as possible is the best i can hope for.


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