jrl: Cen wondered in the initial post if the fact of psychedelic use by the ancient "elders" would lessen the spiritual significance of the acts in question. I think...

I believe there are many ways to reach the same place as psychedelics, such as fasting and yoga. However, only the psychedelic practitioner is liable to be jailed for his/her religious beliefs. And as our founding fathers were fairly clear in their views on our right to practice as well as not be subjected to religious beliefs, I'd like ot see this injustice undone.

lw

Well yes. Of course. I wasn't making a case for anything, I am a devout psychedelian. But I did do some research:

http://www.luminist.org/archives/hachish.htm

Thanks for the link, mon.

lw

Lot of good stuff on the Luminist site. He was an LSD prisoner.

I didn't wonder that, LW, sorry for the confusion. I wondered if the writer of the article was a little biased against such a thing. That's how I read it, anyway.

Ah, so.....

MAybe the guy was minimalizing the acts in question due to the psychedelic influence. That seems to be about the reaction I'd expect from the general public, including many who have dabbled in the sacraments.

lw

Every time I recheck this thread, I find myself smiling at that beautiflly wrought line from bro JRL: " I'm a devout psychedelian" ---- That's just one of those great ones imho... Sorta like when Wavy quipped :If 'ya can't laugh at the world, rhen it's just not funny anymore"... Hey JRL.... Duly note that I'm gonna plaigarize that great utterance -------------sal

Feel free, as long as you deposit the royalties in my Swis bank account.