I'm working to get Obama elected president, and I'm proud of that fact. What are you doing?

I know what my goal is. What's yours?

I know my beliefs are valid, because they are the result of 40 plus years of good and bad experiences, and thinking about things every day. What are your beliefs?

I don't back down to a little pushing around anymore. I used to. Bullies don't scare me because they are pathetic.

My beliefs and my doubts are my own, nobody else's. I don't call them the truth, just what I am working with at the moment. But they are mine, not picked from the TV or what cliches people sling around and call thinking.

Stoney, you can engage a discussion with me or call me names. Now that choice is yours, but most people reading this thread are going to see which one you make. So why don't you answer my questions above. I have asked them before.

Let me put it short and straight: what do you believe in?

Correction: I've researched this book banning thing extensively. Palin's question to the librarian seems true, check here:
http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/20 ... 155484.txt

HOWEVER: that list in this thread is false, as far as I can tell. In other words, no list was ever submitted, nor was an book ever banned.

THAT SAID, Palin still had the conversation. Still asked about it. That part of the story is documented, and is enough for me to feel the subject is a valid one to ask her about, if she ever does an actual interview.

Hey, don't get mad, cen. And I didn't call you any names. What do I believe in? I believe in justice for all which includes economic justice. I don't want to be bled so some parasite can live high off the hog. I want everyone to have the right to free speech. I'm not working to get Obama elected even though I think he is the lesser of the evils. I certainly will not work to get Mc-oldfogey elected.

I'm glad to see you admit no books were ever banned and that the list was bogus. You cling to the fact she reportedly asked the librarian a question. I say so what. She was concerned about bad language in books. I don't think books should be banned, no matter the language, but asking questions should always be allowed.

So the story was false. Just as I thought.

The list was bogus but the story has not been disproven. The story clearly shows that her fellow towns people, including the former mayor, say she inquired about book banning. This may not bother you, but it sure as hell bothers me. Book banning in America? Is this the 1950s? How can you say you want everyone to have the right to free speech but are OK with the possibility that Palin is talking about book banning?

I'll say again: I want her to be questioned about it in the course of an interview, to respond to those on the record who have made these claims. Of course unless it was documented on paper or on tape, there's no final proof. But I'd like her to go on the record with her view on this matter. We'll see if this ever happens. I think this is just one more fucked up aspect of the McCain/Palin ticket

What parasites are living high on the hog? Seems like Bush* has spent 8 years giving the rich tax breaks, and tax breaks to companies that are sending US jobs overseas. Are these the parasites you are talking about?

Yes, some of the parasites are rich. Some of them work for government. Some of them are welfare recipients. I do not want my hard earned money taken away by big govt and handed out according to some pin headed social theory. Pay as you go and no free lunch. I do think there should be a safety net but don't let them turn it into a permanent hammock.

It seems that the correct title of this story should have been

"Palin asks librarian a question"

But that wouldn't have been sexy. It wouldn't have gotten the troops fired up so that they would go out and slay the enemy. Instead we got a bogus list of books she supposedly banned or tried to ban. Asking a question is not the same as banning books. Was it books for adults or children? If it was kids books, then I can understand some concern about language or content.

You said:

"How can you say you want everyone to have the right to free speech but are OK with the possibility that Palin is talking about book banning?"

Because if I have free speech and you have free speech, then she has to have free speech too. Even your enemies have to have it or no one has it. If she wants to talk about book banning, that's her right. It seems you want free speech for yourself but not for her. Aren't we talking about book banning in this thread? No topic is forbidden. Talk about it but don't ban any books, not for adult anyway.

She can talk about whatever she wants, but the issue is whether she as an elected official is going to ban books. Banning books means someone decides for someone else what is allowed to be taken out of the public library. When someone "bans" a book, they say that author's right to free speech is limited. Is that the way you understand it too or am I missing something?

This was 1996, she probably hasn't given an interview because she forgot all about it.