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domino
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Post subject: Inside Laurel Canyon Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 6:18 pm |
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This is hardly current events but the article does pose questions about how people are led and how even what may seem like grass-roots movements are perhaps somewhat more sinister. Those familiar with the book 'Acid Dreams' may see some similar leanings. "We will provide your opposition leaders." All in all a very entertaining read. Inside the LC: the Strange But Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation. http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/index.html12 installments so far. Enjoy.
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Syd
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Post subject: Re: Inside Laurel Canyon Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:27 am |
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Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 1:03 am Posts: 708 Location: England
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Some light reading for a rainy day ey? Thanks! Also something somewhat related, there are a lot of A listers who lived there past and present, not to mention the Wonderland murders.
_________________ Spills more than some people bottle.
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domino
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Post subject: Re: Inside Laurel Canyon Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:43 pm |
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There is a lot of information there to assimilate. What gets me is how on Earth the guy could keep all the related people and events together to write about. He must have some kind of flow charts of people, events and lines connecting them to others. It is quite a body of work. I am not one to casually believe all I read and I'm sure there are errors but from a quick read I found no glaring errors. This guy really did some homework. What is fascinating are the recurring themes of military families and intelligence connections. Assets? A dark and dirty underworld beneath the feet of an unknowing populace. So many deaths! So many strange coincidences. Another really good read in the same vein: http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/wtc13.htmlInfo on Manson, Owsley, Parsons and many others. Wild.
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Veracohr
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Post subject: Re: Inside Laurel Canyon Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:56 am |
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Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:09 am Posts: 165
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I got a few parts in before I gave up. I don't think I had even gotten to the real meat of the conspiracy story he was weaving, but I was already sick of it.
I don't know how people can believe in such far-reaching conspiracy theories. Get 4 people together and you can't even agree on where to go for dinner, local governments usually can't organize themselves enough to properly maintain their city's roads and transit and anything else in a reasonable amount of time. How am I supposed to believe in a group of hereditary men in black (in disguise) creating such a phenomenon? I wouldn't be surprised if the author eventually tried to tie his conspiracy to the Illuminati or Xenu or who knows what else.
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JRL
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Post subject: Re: Inside Laurel Canyon Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:17 am |
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Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2005 11:50 pm Posts: 2019 Location: pastures of plenty
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Dude's a wingnut far as I can tell. Better switch to decafe.
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the marijuana smokers were discussing questions of the utmost profundity and we were sticking our fingers in our navels & giggling
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laughingwillow
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Post subject: Re: Inside Laurel Canyon Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:26 pm |
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I don't know......
I read all the installments over the last few days. What I've ascertained so far: Many of the musicians who lived in laurel canyon came from families with ties to the military/intelligence establishment on the east coast. Many of these musicians have parents or close family members who were killed or committed suicide. Many of the mentioned musicians did the same.
The guy also reports that most of the "Laurel Canyon sound" was created on albums by using studio musicians Phil Spector called "the wrecking crew," as the young turks from the east coast didn't know how to play when they arrived in So Cal.
And I think I remember something coming from the Dead concerning their relatively negative view of the So Cal music scene mentioned above.
I'm waiting for the author to tie up all the loose details he's provided in the series with an earth shattering theory or even some kind of motive for the mysterious deaths and alleged nazi ties, but doubt that is going to happen.
lw
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domino
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Post subject: Re: Inside Laurel Canyon Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:18 pm |
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Personally, I love conspiracy theories. I find them entertaining and amusing. Some are so whacko that I have to chuckle and some so intricate and imaginative that I am in awe wondering why the author is not making money writing fiction. Some are obvious attempts at 'poisoning the well' as in the 'no planes' theory of the WTC collapse; the more whacko and fringe-like you can portray a group, the more damage you can do to their credibility.
I don't think the author of these essays will draw any earth-shattering conclusion. Make of it what you will. Keep this in mind: Any good prosecuter or detective is a conspiracy theorist. Conspiracies exist and they, by and large, are responsible for the currents of modern civilization. We did not get where we are by having leaders that believed in the will of the masses. Opacity is the rule. Governments tend to become vehicles for the machinations of the rich and powerfull.
In the words of J. Edgar Hoover, "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
Once one admits that false flag operations have provided the impetus some military actions in the past, then the question arises, "Just how much is really left to chance?"
How deep does the rabbit hole go Alice?
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Syd
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Post subject: Re: Inside Laurel Canyon Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:33 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 1:03 am Posts: 708 Location: England
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Deep, says she to me.
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domino
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Post subject: Re: Inside Laurel Canyon Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:29 pm |
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laughingwillow
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Post subject: Re: Inside Laurel Canyon Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:57 pm |
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In the linked article, the author says that David Carradine's death was not a suicide but rather murder.
I propose a third alternative. His death may have been accidental. Let's say a guy hires a prostitute in Thailand to get freaky with the ropes and then the guy accidentally dies while engaged in sex play. My guess is that the prostitute would prolly flee the scene in order to avoid being implicated in the death.
lw
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domino
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Post subject: Re: Inside Laurel Canyon Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:58 am |
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This is a very good possibility lw. The overburdened cops are happy to file away the accident, just as they are when a suicide neccesitates 2 bullets to the head.
If I had to bet on it, I'd say it was an accident. What is it though, about the entertainment business in general that makes it seem as though many of those with fame and fortune have made faustian deals with the dark side? People are driven to sucess and that drive is exploited by those who are expert at milking a living off others. The world is a jungle and life is fueled by death, living depends on dying, the prey and the predators almost indistinguishable. There is never a niche that is not filled in this world, at least not for very long, and the parasites help shape the form of the hosts. A symbiosis is effected when a climax ecology comes to fruition. Nothing remains static in the affairs of man except the fact that other will always try to ride for free.
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Amomynous
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Post subject: Re: Inside Laurel Canyon Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:31 pm |
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Not to engage in celebrity gossip, but when the death was first reported it was reported as an accident (by, I believe, his publicist). Given the circumstances that sounds like the most reasonable explanation (I mean, if you're going to kill yourself, there were some pretty bizarre aspects).
But some people will always choose murder as an explanation (not that murders don't happen). Think of any dead public person and in 10 or 15 seconds on Google you'll find people that wave wove a murder conspiracy around it.
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domino
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Post subject: Re: Inside Laurel Canyon Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:24 am |
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Syd wrote: Deep, says she to me. One of my favorite forums has a very lively conspiracy section. This thread I'm referencing is rather interesting. It begs the question, "Whence comes power?" If you can control the thoughts then you are the master of the ones you have mesmerized. Hollywood is the seat of much power. http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=426353"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." — Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Pay special attention to the video in post #27. Yeah, AJ irritates the hell out of me too. He brings some things to light that should be outed however, so I guess He's not all bad.
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